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  • Making Algae Fuels Commercially Viable

    Algae biofuels are certainly the best alternative for fossil fuels. However, the very high production costs of algae fuels questions the economic viability of the fuel and creates uncertainties about sustainable production. What are all the possible ways to cut the production costs so as to make algae fuels a reality?

Thoughts and ideas from Oilgae Club members (32)

  1. AlgaeBill 5 days ago

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    Economic Algae Fuel is an elusive beast, after researching and trialling this beast for many year – if there ever is a shorter turn solution then taking it to BioGas would be from my perspective the best Economic Path – Note: you will have to blend it with other feed stock to get the best value–
    Though I always find the path of using Algae for energy in combustion engines and other main stream energy uses, disturbing.
    Micro algae has lots and lots of much more beneficial uses. The essential fatty acid in Algae should be used in feed for animals and humans food chains (like it is naturally). If the algae are created on Human effluent then it could be used for this energy prospect. Other than that let get the real value for it.
    On that Note: “does anyone no of any research on the benefits of using micro algae in the enrichment of soil and plants “ Algae Bill ?


  2. Green21 6 days ago

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    Hi All : I am looking for a source of market data of non fuel Algae products. Any help ?


  3. Washregal 1 month ago

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    Does anyone have a reference book for production / algae growth.. prhaps a digital download?

    I m thinking about investing in this - and wondering what I am getting into.

    The merits of Algae are strong - In working with Fuel Cell technology in the past.. I am assuming cost of production like fuel cell is mainly the barrier to market.

    - Can we convert std. Diesel to Bio-Diesel?

    _ Will refiners crack / can they crack the oil to produce gasoline?

    Any literature advise / downloads would be greatly appreciated.


  4. JerryBond 3 months ago

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    The City of Leesburg, FL. is in the planning stages of the development of the Florida Energy and Aerospace Technology Park (FEAT Park).

    The city owns 3,300 acres southwest of the city adjoining the Florida Turnpike. One of the city’s wastewater treatment facilities is located on the property. We are searching for a wastewater-to-energy company and an algae-to-energy company that would be willing to bring their technology to Leesburg. If your company, or a company you know, would be interested in partnering with the city, I would like to discuss the particulars with you.

    Please contact me at your convenience.

    Jerry Bond, Project Manager
    Energy and Aerospace Technology Park

    423 737-3090
    FEATpark@gmail.com
    www.leesburgflorida.gov/feat/index.aspx

    501 W. Meadow St.
    PO Box 490630
    Leesburg, Florida
    34749-0630


  5. Fati 7 months ago

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    hello dear member
    i want to start project of produce biodiesel from algae
    please send me full project about this subject please


  6. Kcheyde 8 months ago

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    Just as "scaling up" has led serious agricultural issues, so too will "scaling up" algae productions. By creating massive, multi-million dollar facilities we create huge potential for failure, not only economically, but also environmentally. It is akin to putting all of your eggs in one basket, which any investor knows is not a good idea.

    Rather, just as there has been a recent push in local farming, so too should there be a push for small scale, local algae production.

    Algae production should come from wherever there is a roof. By cultivating on top of business buildings, university roofs, or even residential houses, we are utilizing the full capacity of our built infrastructure for the cultivation of algae. Why build huge plants when we already have ample space (not to mention flue gas effluent.)

    As for collection and harvesting, this must be done by regional processing plants that would go from rooftop to rooftop and harvest the PBRs once the algae has reached carrying capacity. Of course this would require a fair amount of infrastructure, but so does any successful utility. We simply cannot look for this industry to be cash flow positive within a couple of years. It will take great investment and patience. However, to incentivize quick growth, the regional processor could pay the algae producer a fee for the algae based off of volume and density, both easily measured.

    Would this system require more investment? Of course. But in the end, it is a reasonable way to make algae biofuel not only scalable, but also sustainable, an issue we must constantly consider within the green community.


  7. Ivverah 8 months ago

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    I think algae fuels work, I'm making some here in Zimbabwe if you know where that is!


  8. Saxonbeast69 9 months ago

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    im doing the same thing now. small scale for my own production. i can produce about 100 gallons a day but only do about 100 gallons a week. looking to make a percentage of that algea oil.


  9. WilliamTorres 10 months ago

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    I want to develop a small-scale pilot project for the production of biodiesel. I want to use the waste algae high in animal protein for fattening livestock and milk production. Appreciate your suggestions.


    Waiting for your prompt response.

    Thanks

    William Torres
    Setas del Caribe
    Puerto Rico USA


  10. AlgaeNova 9 months ago

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    I have written enough about algae and its negative energy ballance when it comes to use this beautiful gift of mother nature as an energy carrier - I am tired of repeating myself - most of you who are positivly for algae fuel "believe" and "asume" - but nobody comes with clear facts and proof that it works. When I mean "it works" than I don`t mean half a barrel of algae fuel - I mean fuel for million of cars!
    Ok - that`s enough! Algae biomasses as well as other biomasses are no solution to function as mass-energy carier.
    One formular for the future is:
    Renewable Energy (wind/solar/wave) water > electrolysis > O² and H² + CO² = CH4
    This can be produced in masses, can be stored, transported, fed into the public grid, used in power stations (of every size!), filled into your car!,in ceramic fuel cells or in small gas tanks for your garden grill.
    So why waste algae - we have better use for them!

    http://www.audi-balanced-mobility.de/de/index.html


  11. Saxonbeast69 9 months ago

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    i have to agree justi. personally i love mushroom and mushrooms main waste product is carbon dioxide. carbon dioxide also wieghs heavey on the air.you could do something like a pool with a bubble over it. grow mushrooms on one end of the laboratory a pump on the floor, since CO2 naturally falls. just pump the air to the bottom of the pool where the algea is growing. set the lights above the pool. as for nutrients, i was thinking about a plastic tank with holes in it set in the middle of the pool with koi or gold fish in it. feed the fish the fish feed the algea. but not an expert on this stuff. if this wont work could someone help explain why???


  12. Justj 9 months ago

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    I've posted before, I'll post it again.... As long as you continue to isolate algae as a single production goal you cannot achieve economical results! You should be looking at an entire system where algae is only one of many biological products produce in a single system. Our aquaponics system produces fish and vegetables for the table, fertilizer for the plants that don't do well hydroponically, algae and compost for the next growing cycle. Until you start using entire ecological systems and imitating nature in a smaller more purposeful system you will continue to have high production costs.


  13. FatAlgae 9 months ago

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    Key Shortcoming of Dept. of Energy

    Where are the micro crops? Specifically, algae, which rates exactly two mentions, one of which is to explain that "algae is excluded from the study". Seriously, how can the US Department of Energy take on a survey of biomass available in 2030 – with serious policy and public investment implications — without taking into account a view of how much micro crop the US will produce and harvest in 2030.

    For sure, to many algae remains an experimental, futuristic technology platform for producing biomass. But, then, consider how futuristic a window into 2030 is, in any case. That’s the same as looking at today from the point of view of 1992 – before, say, the World Wide Web, ubiquitous mobile phones, 9/11, or the global financial crisis of 2008.

    Algae has benn researched at universities for 50 years. To date, the US taxpayer has spent over $2.5 billion dollars on algae research and NOTHING has been commercialized by any algae researcher at any university.

    The REAL question is: Does the DOE really want to get off of foreign oil, or do they want to continue funding algae research to keep researchers employed at universities for another 50 years??? In business you are not given 50 years to research anything.

    Heard investigations are going on at the DOE Biomass program on how much has been spent and what were the results. DOE is not returning calls from reporters. DOE funded ponds will be "mothballed" very shortly. Stay tuned...


  14. Ronny 10 months ago

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    What do you think limit’s the growth of algae in any volume of water?

    1. Is it the light that each individual algae receive, and/or lack of sunlight “cloudy days“?

    2. Would you think another limiting factor might be, too much oxygen in the water? Algae's waist bi-product.

    3. Would you think overcrowding would limit the amount of algae that can be grown per gallon of water per?

    4. Would lack of CO2, and other nutrients limit the amount of algae per gallon of water?

    5. Would water conditions, such as PH limit the growth of algae?

    6. Would bacterial, viral infection, and predatory organisms of the algae, limit the production?

    7. Would cold temperatures, or overheating (referring to tube bio-reactors) decrease the algae’s annual growth/yield?

    8. How about competitive strains of algae. Would you think that would be a consideration as well.

    By eliminating the limiting factors, that restrict algae's extreme ability to grow, and reproduce. How much more algae can be grown?
    Would 10 times more production be feasible? Could 20 times, also be possible?
    Just by slightly improving the environment from an open pond environment, to a tube system, it has been said you get 5 times better yield from the algae, but it seems this doesn‘t remove all the limiting factors. This is what I have gathered from my research.
    A fact of nature, the better the environmental conditions, the higher the growth/reproduction rate of any species, (human beings are a good example of this). This seems too apply to plants as well.


  15. Ronny 10 months ago

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    I would like to respectfully request some information, about the limit of micro algal concentration, per given volume of water, namely “Nannochloropsis strain”.
    Suppose I developed a hypothetical system that removed all the limiting factors of algal growth, such as in a lab environment (providing the absolute ideal conditions for the algae) what percentage of concentration of algae could be attained, gallon for gallon? In example 1%? 1 gallon of algae: 100 gallons of water? Is this possible?


  16. Simonstepanian 10 months ago

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    Could anyone supply me any analytical data on a typical algae oil and also from a typical 'cake' residue once oil has been extracted ?
    I'm thinking of using both products as a fuel so a proximate analysis giving moisture, ash, volatile and cv would be most helpful.


  17. Timlawton 10 months ago

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    Using Apple Snails to supply fertilizer for algae. This seems to be cutting the cost of fertilizer and gives a second income stream.


  18. Kleanbiodiesel 10 months ago

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    fermenters will be cost-effective. my company is currebntly researching on this.


  19. Murali527 10 months ago

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    it's use for biodiesel


  20. MEENAKSHISUNDARAM 10 months ago

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    its not a easy task to grow algae for biofuels, but in my view instead of growing in bioreactor this may grow in riseway pond in open area may be cheaper in capital invesment and the media cost may high to this culture without contamination and predators. this marine algae may grow near esturine or back water will be ideal.


  21. Vinaygade 10 months ago

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    For algae production on large scale
    we have cross some constrain such as space.We are overcome it by use
    of artificial lighting.In my veiw
    the algae growth reactor should be resemble with chemical process reactors as we use in industries there should be gas exchange arrangement to stop product inhibition.


  22. Cll123 10 months ago

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    Here is my idea to bring down the costs of ethanol biofuel http://biosarch.wordpress.com/2011/07/16/bios-net-positive-spirits-algae-based-sustainable-drinkable-alcohol/


  23. Prototroph 10 months ago

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    Check out my blogpost "Developments in microalgal harvesting
    biotechnology: Genetically engineered auto/bio-flocculation."

    -Prototroph


  24. Algalsolution 11 months ago

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    Urine and Solar Panels


  25. Simonstepanian 10 months ago

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    Surely there are other uses for algae oils other than biodiesel production ?

    Who has available data regarding the various qualities of oils produced once moisture has been driven off ?

    Who has similar data for the solid cake residue after oil extraction ?

    The value of the oil and value of the cake will determine whether it is economically feasible or bot.


  26. Mariamameen 10 months ago

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    i am a research student i want to know how much cost will be for one liter bio diesel from marine algae in laboratory scale kindly reply me as soon as possible. looking for your kind reply


  27. JoshWolf 11 months ago

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    I do think scaling is important, but the use of resources is even more crucial. For example, with the project I'm working on, I am able to make 18 gallons of biodiesel a week in a tank that cost a total of 150 including aeration and electricity (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Algae-Bio-Diesel-Project/162279537164292?sk=wall)

    However location is another crucial piece to make algae bio-fuels a reality. If we produced cheap algae farms but placed them next to a power plant, the algae growth would be phenomenal!


  28. RobertTulip 11 months ago

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    Scale, scale, scale. Harnessing tide and wave power for large algae bags at sea can provide free pumping energy that is scalable and will reduce unit cost to competitive level.


  29. Greenbar 11 months ago

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    algaeconsentrate (tm)pat eu


  30. Sharif7bd 11 months ago

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    Due to their small size and low concentration in the culture medium, microalgae harvesting creates a huge operational costmay be 30% of total cost. so if we can develop selfflocculation harvesting system we can reduace the production cost more then 20-30%.
    Thank you
    Md. Asraful Alam
    email: Sharif7bd@yahoo.com


  31. Larsyn 11 months ago

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    1.If algae is produced from wastewater it reduces the cost of water & nutrients. also improves the water quality. All of which needs to be factored into the cost.
    2. If the waste algae left from the extraction can be used in other high end uses this all so must be factored into the cost. its possible that the oil extracted from algae could be considered a by product of Algae.


  32. Greenbar 11 months ago

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